Dunno what the level was but it was a jot overlevelled but overlevelled wrong, getting me dex up to use twinblades or flails. Figured I'd come back to it, do another run. Bit rusty, maybe. Maybe me and my beloved shields were never so great. Thought was to do it using just the weapons new compared to DS3, going for early Mohg, course for the dlc gear cos I wanna try Morgott with some of it. Heavy Thrusting Swords, Flails, Twinblades, and I did start with sacred seals cos it's not called talismans, but yeah, not a hard rule. Maybe Colossal Weapons, not exactly Greathammers. Most is to use what I've not used so much before...though I am addicted to Heavy Thrusting Swords as usual. Mostly I'm just not using shields which is wacky.