The dies help create the pop up on the inside of this card but if you don't want to do that you can just step up the outside! I didn't tell you on the video and should have that if you don't have the dies you can also cut the slits with a craft knife and get the same effect. Just push inward at the fold and you'll have the pop up piece!! Again, skip the extra if you aren't into the extra and make a beautiful card on the outside.