In this episode of Calm Under Fire, Colonel John Boggs interviews Tom Krause, a cybersecurity expert and coach, discussing the intersection of leadership and cybersecurity. They explore the human factors that influence cybersecurity, the importance of building sustainable systems, and how leaders can prepare for breaches. Krause emphasizes the need for governance, understanding compliance, and the evolving landscape of cyber risks, including the impact of AI. The conversation highlights the significance of coaching in leadership development and the necessity for organizations to measure their cybersecurity efforts effectively.